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Tuesday, August 30, 2011

DAVID MANDEL IT IS TIME TO RESIGN. AND BRING NEW LEADERSHIP TO OHEL CHILDRENS HOME

DAVID MANDELCEO OHEL CHILDRENS HOME

THE PROBLEM
Breaking the Silence about “Breaking the Silence” by Dr. Asher Lipner

In the recent sequel to the hit movie Wall Street, the protagonist, Gordon Gekko, gets released from jail after completing an eight-year sentence for committing insider trading and stock fraud. The “reformed” con-artist makes an “only in America” comeback by writing and marketing a book warning people of financial trouble in the real estate bubble that has been created by the very philosophy Gekko promoted in the 80’s: greed is good.

In their new book, David Mandel, CEO of Ohel Children’s Home and Family Services and his colleague, Dr. David Pelcovitz, Ph.D. similarly endeavor to lock the barn door after they have stolen the horses. The title, “Breaking the Silence: Sexual Abuse in the Jewish Community,” attempts to convey a courageous heroism, as if the editors are exposing an unknown crisis to the public. But in fact, our community has had scandalous headlines about sexual abuse and cover-up for over ten years. Like Gekko, the editors are engaging in a public relations campaign to cover their backsides and to maintain the silence about the fact that as leaders in the mental health community, they have helped create the system that got us into this mess.

Mandel attempts to establish his credentials as an expert in the field by repeatedly referring to “our experience at Ohel”, so the book really needs to be read in the context of Ohel’s notorious record. Since the 1980’s when Ohel failed to warn the community about its “consultant”, infamous child molester Avraham Mondrowitz, thereby enabling him to escape justice, until this day Ohel has repeatedly been involved in protecting molesters, not children.

Even on the book cover in the short list of safety goals, “reporting” to the authorities is glaringly missing. While Rabbi Dovid Cohen commits to writing for the first time that one is “allowed” to report sex crimes to the police, he hedges his bet by equivocating that the issues of “mesirah, lashon harah and chillul Hashem” are complex, and one should consult “a competent halachic authority” when in question.

Unfortunately, consulting rabbis is exactly what parents and survivors of abuse have been doing until now with catastrophic results, as almost all rabbis, out of ignorance or cowardice have breached halacha and advised protecting the abusers. Ohel’s own internal policy for staff is that no therapist is allowed to report child abuse without clearing it with Rabbi Cohen, a policy that is in breach of mandated reporting laws.

Ohel’s misguided philosophy on dealing with abusers is due to the book’s stated belief in a “diversity of values and ends” that can create conflict among “reasonably rational, well intentioned persons…involved with sex offenders.” The “relevant stakeholders” that in Ohel’s opinion can “reasonably disagree on the ordering of priorities”, seem to include (based on Ohel’s history) the molester whose concern and legal right to confidentiality is constantly trumpeted by Ohel, the molester’s family, the community whose image is tarnished by revelations of criminality and deviancy, and the institutions that harbor molesters who want to protect their reputations and finances from lawsuits. This ideology of complex, relative moral values completely flies in the face of both Jewish and secular law that give simple, straightforward and unequivocal directives that protection of the past and future victims must be the primary value and consideration.

In their chapter on “treating” sexual predators, the authors ignore the experts who advocate that courts and probation departments play a particularly important role both as a motivating force, and an integral part of therapy. The Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers treatment guidelines also insist that “supervision agencies work closely with victim advocacy organizations to ensure that their policies do not re-traumatize victims of sexual assault,” an idea that is neither recommended in this book, nor practiced by Ohel.

One example of a policy that certainly re-traumatized victims of abuse is that instead of joining virtually all child advocates groups in supporting the Child Victim’s Act, (aka the “Markey Bill”) Ohel advocated for a “compromise” bill giving legal amnesty to abusers.[1] Furthermore, not a single of the recent pedophiles arrested in Brooklyn were brought to the attention of the authorities by Ohel, nor has Ohel given any support to the victims of abuse who courageously came forward to warn the public.

The book also continues to support the “Ohelian” idea that a rabbinic Beit Din should be utilized to address cases of child molestation. Refusing to learn from the fiasco of the Catholic Church’s shameful system of sheltering pedophile priests, or the doomed-to-failure attempts of the Batei Din of Yeshiva University, Lakewood, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Chicago to play “Law and Order” without the police, the editors and some of the authors are proud to help set up yet another rabbinical group to “deal with” (read: cover up for) sex crimes in Rockland County.[2]

In the chapter on “Prevention and Intervention Programs,” highly trained professionals give dangerously bad advice to parents. They state that although there is no halachic problem of reporting abuse to the authorities, it is “understandable” that orthodox professionals who are mandated reporters nevertheless feel hindered by cultural taboo from doing so. Even more shocking is that parents are admonished not to tell other parents in their child’s school if molestation occurs, because it is a “private matter.”

Silence is not always golden

Psychologists and crime prevention professionals have long known that in communication, one can often learn more about the speaker’s thoughts from that which is not said than from that which is. While claiming to “break the silence,” Ohel’s book continues to censor important information that the community needs to know. The most glaring omission is the voice of a survivor of abuse. While the disclosures that were taken from therapy sessions and edited letters are educational, sorely missing is a first-hand account of an adult survivor about the real life experience of surviving abuse in our community. Survivors of abuse will certainly feel that yet another opportunity was missed to finally give them a voice, and they have once again been shut out of the discussion. By comparison, in the recently published scholarly book, “Daas Torah: Child and Domestic Abuse,” edited by Rabbi Daniel Eidensohn and Baruch Shulem, Ph.D. (to which this writer also contributed) two powerful autobiographical chapters are included, allowing the reader to hear what survivors really think and feel, unedited and uncensored.

Furthermore, “Breaking the Silence” can break one’s eardrums with its silence about the history of scandalous communal cover-ups. It is utterly ludicrous to discuss abuse in the community without addressing the real betrayal experienced by survivors whose victimhood has been denied, minimized, and silenced by our establishment leaders for so long with threats and intimidation. Most survivors of abuse agree that the community response to child sexual abuse is often a worse trauma than the abuse. The parents who have had their children thrown out of yeshivas for the “crime” of disclosing abuse, the families that were literally run out of town, the children who were slapped in the face for daring to name their molester, will all read this book and think “Here we go again.” The reasons for this betrayal are not unknown, as Dr. Michael Salamon explains in his new book, “Abuse: How Extremist Views Undermine the Apprehension of Offenders and the Treatment of Victims.”

On a bright note, David Mandel’s own chapter does provide some comic relief. Although he admits that the rabbis, adult survivors and child advocates who brought this issue to the awareness of the community deserve recognition, he declines to name them with the excuse that he does not want to get them into trouble.

As if advocates like Mark Weiss, David Framowitz, and Joel Engleman, Esther Malka Reich, Sara Rosenberg, advocates like Vicki Polin, Ben Hirsh, Michael Salamon, Mark Meyer Appel, Assemblyman Dov Hikind, Rabbis like Nochem Rosenberg, Yosef Blau, Daniel Eidenshohn,yakov horowitz,noach oelbaum, and Yitzchak Eisenman or bloggers like Paul Mendlowitz of UOJ, or  FailedMessiah fear backlash in standing up for child safety. Dr. Freud would surely interpret this notion as Mr. Mandel “projecting” his own fear of bringing attention to these individuals who have, almost to a person, been harshly critical of his record (in UOJ’s words) of “letting no cover-up go uncovered.”
[1] Mandel, D. (April 29, 2009) Sexual Abuse Legislation: A Proposed Strategy for Reform. Five Towns Jewish Times

[2] Orbach, M. (April 23, 2010) New Square appoints Vaad to deal with sexual abuse. The Jewish Star
                                           

Friday, August 26, 2011

KEEPING SAFE DURING HURRICANE SANDY

                           

                         http://www.nyc.gov/html/oem/html/nycsevereweather/weather_home.shtml


         How to Stay Safe During A Hurricane

                                                                 STAY ALERT

            KEEP CHECKING ON YOUR NEIGHBORS AND SENIOR CITIZENS AND CHILDREN


The vast majority of people living in "hurricane alley" will stay safe during a hurricane. Hurricanes can be killer storms, and you need to know what to do to stay safe. We now have plenty of notice when a hurricane is headed our way. It's up to us to make an informed decision of just what to do.

  1. If You Plan to Evacuate

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      Evacuate early! Evacuations may be ordered by state or local officials, or you may live in an evacuation zone. Find out if you live in an evacuation zone by calling your county emergency management office. Most injuries and deaths occur in zones that have been ordered to be evacuated, but people choose to stay. Listen to your local news for up to the minute information. If you choose not to evacuate, remember that police and rescue cannot reach you until the storm is over.
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      Decide where you will go. A local shelter should be your last option. They are crowded, hot and not at all private. You must bring your own supplies. It is especially difficult for young children or elderly people in a designated shelter. If you are ill or have special needs, you must make arrangements with your county to be transported to the special needs shelter. Pets are not accepted at most shelters, so they also must go to a designated pet shelter. It is much easier staying with a friend, relative or staying in a motel.
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      Assemble an emergency evacuation kit. Include important documents and photos, a list of phone numbers, emergency contacts and medical information. Don't forget insurance policies and photos of your home and contents. Pack clothes, food, water, medications, toiletries, infant and children needs, pet needs and anything that fits in your car that you cannot bear to lose. Don't forget maps, tools for your car, cell phone and a first aid kit. Pack for at least a week stay for everyone
    • 4
      Fill your vehicle with gas well ahead of leaving. Gas stations are likely to have long lines and may even be out of gas at the last minute.
    • 5
      Get cash well ahead of time. ATM's will not work when the power goes out and most stores cannot accept credit or debit cards if the power is out. Most transactions will require cash.

    If You Plan to Stay at Home

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      Stock up on hurricane supplies. Have a minimum of a seven-day supply. Buy non-perishable foods and food in pouches. Include proteins, fruits and vegetables. Buy foods that do not require extra cooking and can be eaten cold if necessary. Stock up on water, at least one gallon per person per day. Remember to add the all-important manual can opener, cooking utensils and pots and pans. Don't forget aluminum foil, paper towels, garbage bags and disposable cleaning wipes. Buy a lot of batteries for flashlights and radios. Make up a good first aid kit and stock up on cleaning supplies, especially bleach, gloves and heavy-duty garbage bags.
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      Find a "safe room" in your home, which is in the center of your home and away from windows. A large closet or even the bathroom can be your designated safe room. This is where you will shelter while the hurricane is making landfall and will stay there until the storm has passed. Do not come out until all danger has passed. Stock your safe room with a battery operated radio so you can listen to the local news and hear police reports. Also stock flashlights, pillows or a small mattress, some snacks and water and first aid kit. It's a good idea to bring your important documents in a watertight bag. Don't forget to include your pets in your safe room plans.
    • 3
      Prepare your home with hurricane shutters or plywood, trim dead branches and clean up any yard debris. Move yard ornaments or tools that can become flying missiles. Move your vehicles to a sheltered place or garage.
    • 4
      Plan for power outages and stock up on extra water to freeze. Use this water as ice until it melts and it can then be used as drinking water. Fill your tub and outdoor garbage cans with extra water. Fill as many jugs of water as possible, because you can never have too much.
    • 5
      Notify friends and relatives of your plans and make arrangements to call them if possible after the storm has passed. Ask them to be patient as phones are likely to be disrupted; arrange to call a few days after the hurricane has passed. Try to call as soon as possible to reassure friends and family of your safety.


Thursday, August 25, 2011

TO THE BOARD OF OHEL FIRE MOSHE HELLMAN AND DAVID MANDEL

When Was The Last Time
Ohel Called The Police On A Molester?
   
Is David Mandel caving in to the advocates?
Or is he trying to keep his job at Ohel Childrens Home

DAVID MANDEL OF OHEL CONTINUES IN HIS DECEPTIVE ROLE AS A PROTECTOR OF OUR CHILDREN,WE KNOW THE TRUTH AS TO HIS REAL AGENDA OF PROTECTING MOLESTORS IN OUR COMMUNITIES .HIS AGENDA OF TRYING TO MAKE DEALS WITH PUBLICITY SEEKING ADVOCATES LIKE ELLIOT PASSIK WILL NOT WORK

David Mandel must resign from Ohel Childrens Home
The problem with Ohel is at the top. We know there is a change when they begin reporting abusers to the police.
Horav Yosef Blau, Rosh Yeshiva Yeshiva University

Wednesday, August 24, 2011

It Is Time to Overhaul Ohel and Dismiss David Mandel

It Is Time to Overhaul Ohel and Dismiss David Mandel

by Yerachmiel Lopin on February 28, 2011
I wrote an article, Is Ohel a Leaky Tent? in which I concluded that Ohel was a leaky tent. Ohel has repeatedly failed to report sex abuse to the authorities. They made therapy referrals to the serial rapist of boys, Avrohom Mondrowitz.  As Vicki Polin has documented on video, David Mandel publicly advocates circumventing mandatory reporting requirements.  Hella Winston reported last week on a case where Ohel’s professional mental health staff were aware of sex abuse and wanted to report it. Once again the corrupt management of Ohel overruled professional staff. Once again, Ohel failed to protect an abused child. This cannot go on!
It is time to patch the leaky tent.  David Mandel is not the man for this job; he has built his career on ripping holes in the roof to oblige his patrons. Incredibly, he has not even bothered to respond to the latest allegations, even though the article by Hella Winston quotes former employees of Ohel. If the charges were false I am sure he would have said something. In the past he has taken out full page ads to burnish his reputation. Mandel is not shy; he is corrupt.
Honorable, charitable men and women sacrificed to create and fund Ohel it  in its earliest years. It was opened to fulfill the sacred obligation of a Jewish community to care for its orphans and others in need. Ohel should not be a  private fiefdom operated for the  financial benefit of it managers and manipulated to protect the image of powerful men and organizations.
Those of you who serve on the Board of Ohel  hold a sacred trust. I appeal to your conscience and your self interest. Do not let yourself be implicated in the illegal and immoral misconduct of your Director, David Mandel. You are responsible for oversight. You can no longer trust David Mandel. You must authorize an independent set of investigators to evaluate the performance of Ohel. You must empower these evaluators to have full access to all relevant information. You must charge them to make recommendations, up to and including the dismissal of guilty staff, the reporting of criminal conduct, and the revamping of policies and programs. Then you have to find the courage to follow up on those recommendations.
If you take these steps with rectitude and courage you will deserve credit for your work on behalf of children. If you retreat in cowardice or indifference you may fool some people in the short term. But it will weigh heavily against you on the day of your final reckoning. Divine justice is not indifferent to the anguish of tortured children.
Hat tip to Voice of Justice for issuing a comparable call for action whose text  is presented below, in its entirety.
Call for OHEL Leadership Change
The recent revelations about OHEL Jewish Children’s Home and Family Services in Brooklyn written by Hella Winston of the Jewish Week on February 24, 2011 were, without question, profoundly disturbing, but sadly, not entirely unexpected.
For many years OHEL has been awash with rumors and allegations regarding their staff not reporting incidences of sexual abuse to proper authorities as required by law. In addition, many supervisors at OHEL have reportedly instructed staff not to report the allegations of sex abuse.  These allegations of OHEL’s non-compliance with Federal and state reporting guidelines put the entire organization in jeopardy of losing its government funding and non-profit status.  It also puts senior staff and Board of Directors in jeopardy of possible criminal prosecution.
Further, serious concerns have surfaced in the community concerning the partnership and relationship between OHEL and KOL TZEDEK, which is a project of Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes, created to combat sexual abuse in the Orthodox Jewish Community.  KOL TZEDEK’s mission statement calls for providing support and assistance to victims and their families. Unfortunately this relationship appears to be a political one, without any substance at all. OHEL, a major partner with KOL TZEDEK, has not provided any emergency support to victims or families of the victims, especially in the recent high profile sex cases in the community, all of which resulted in convictions.
Neither David Mandel, the CEO of OHEL, nor any one of OHEL’s staff, have ever been present at any of the court trials relating to sexual abuse in our community, nor have they reached out to any of the families involved with any compassion or assistance. OHEL, which is one of the largest non-profit agencies in the New York City area, providing mental health and foster care services, should have reached out and offered its services to victims, alleged victims, and their families. .
As Rabbi Yosef Blau, a Rosh Yeshiva at Yeshiva University, pointed out, OHEL is an extremely important institution in our community and operates vital programs that are crucial and needed for the families in our community. However, these troubling issues cannot be swept under the rug. They must be dealt with in order to banish the dark clouds that impede OHEL’s overall effectiveness and compliance. We respectfully ask OHEL’s Board of Directors to initiate an external investigation. A team of independent professionals, not associated with OHEL, must be invited in to carry out these duties. The external investigation and the implementation of their suggestions will hopefully bring about reinvigorated and honest leadership to the helm of OHEL. This investigation should be similar to the investigation of the Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America (OU) wherein confidence was successfully restored, (specifically after the Baruch Lanner scandal), resulting in the hiring of a new executive leader.  We hope for similar results in this matter. 
We firmly believe that bring new leadership to OHEL, specifically a CEO with clinical experience, to guide the agency through this pivotal and difficult period in the agency’s history, will help to restore OHEL’s original vision and vital mission of protecting Jewish children and strengthening Jewish families.
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  1. Another honorable mention should be inserted in the above post. CALA NY has learned from

IS DAVID MANDEL CAVING IN TO THE ADVOCATES ??? OR IS HE TRYING TO KEEP HIS JOB AT OHEL CHILDRENS HOME

DAVID MANDEL OF OHEL CONTINUES IN HIS DECEPTIVE ROLE AS A PROTECTOR OF OUR CHILDREN,WE KNOW THE TRUTH AS TO HIS REAL AGENDA OF PROTECTING MOLESTORS IN OUR COMMUNITIES .HIS AGENDA OF TRYING TO MAKE DEALS WITH PUBLICITY SEEKING ADVOCATES LIKE ELLIOT PASSIK WILL NOT WORK

.DAVID MANDEL MUST RESIGN

FROM            OHEL  CHILDRENS HOME




SEXUAL ABUSE: PREVENT, POLICE, PROSECUTE
JEWISH PRESS
WED AUGUST 24.2011
BY DAVID MANDEL
In every large group there may be a very small number of individuals who engage or might engage in unacceptable behavior. So the question becomes, how do we identify such individuals and prevent them from entering our schools?

THE PROBLEM WITH OHEL IS AT THE TOP.WE KNOW THERE IS A CHANGE WHEN THEY BEGIN REPORTING ABUSERS TO THE POLICE     HORAV YOSEF BLAU         ROSH YESHIVA  YESHIVA UNIVERSITY


        Social service organizations have for many years been required to fingerprint and complete a criminal background check on all employees. It can take from several days to a week to get results of a fingerprint check. Every now and then a hit comes back on a prospective new hire showing a criminal record. The system also sends information to employers of any new criminal proceedings against a person already in their employ.
Which brings us to the point of Prevent, Police, Prosecute.
There are several ways we can work to prevent the sexual abuse of our children. Parents must speak to their children at several different stages in the child's life, while schools must adopt a strong program to educate students, faculty and parents as well as monitor and adhere to mandated reporting protocols.
Another important factor whose time has come is the fingerprinting of all people employed in yeshivas and day schools, as is currently required in public schools. A detailed proposal by Elliot Pasik, Esq., and other advocates is a sound template urging the state legislature to enact laws requiring fingerprinting in private schools.
Why is this important? It comes down to playing the odds. It's only a matter of time before a hit will come back on an employee of some yeshiva or day school who has a criminal record and possibly a history of sexual abuse.
There are very few individuals in our community who have been convicted of crimes related to child sexual abuse, and even fewer on Megan's List. It may be a long shot, but we always want the odds to be in favor of our children.
             Years ago in an article for The Jewish Press, I urged parents who had reason to believe their child had been or was being sexually abused to report it to the police.
"The concept of protecting one child (from shame and stigma) by not reporting this to the police," I wrote, "virtually assures that other children will be hurt in shul, in yeshiva or in the neighborhood park."
               In a dozen subsequent articles in newspapers and magazines I emphasized the importance of working with police and district attorney staff to prosecute child molesters. Only by pushing abusers into the criminal justice system can we prevent them from harming other children. Moreover, once child molesters are prosecuted and have a criminal record, we will know who they are, and through fingerprint checks can keep them from jobs that provide access to children.
In Breaking the Silence: Sexual Abuse in the Jewish Community, a book I edited with Dr. David Pelcovitz, Rav Dovid Cohen, Ohel's mara d'asra for 41 years, describes the imperative of adhering to mandated reporting laws including contacting the police when sexual abuse takes place.
In the Mi Sheberach for a sick person, we refer to refuas hanefesh u'refuas haguf - healing of the soul and healing of the body. The healing of the soul comes first. If someone were to break into our home or car, or physically attack us, we would without question call the police. It is an attack on our person, our guf. Sexual abuse has been described as an attack on the soul as well as on the body. And if the Mi Sheberach gives priority to nefeshbefore guf, it is a strong message to protect the soul. If murder of the body can result in a life sentence for the convicted killer, why not a similar sentence for murder of the soul?
Playing the odds with lottery tickets is fine. Playing the odds with people who work with and to whom we entrust our children absolutely is not. Prevent, Police, Prosecute - three P's to protect our children from harm.


David Mandel is chief executive officer of Ohel Children's Home and Family Services. He can be contacted at dm@ohelfamily.org. 


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Monday, August 22, 2011

WILL VITO LOPEZ HURT DAVID WEPRINS ELECTION TO TO THE US CONGRESS


Can Corrupt Boss Lopez Deliver the Vote?

Boss Vito Lopez who is under federal investigation for use of government money to run his political organization the non profit Bushwick Senior Citizens. Lopez has it all on the line by supporting Weprin and Espinal in the 54AD.  Since Lopez does not have much support or troops in the Weiner district he is counting on the home club of Carl Kruger the Thomas Jefferson Club(TJ).  The Brooklyn machines has it work cut out for themselves since the first poll taken a couple of weeks ago just as the campaign was getting started showed Turner 6% ahead in Brooklyn.

                                                          

CAN VITO LOPEZ DELIVER THE VOTE



Everyone knows about Ed Koch's desire to send a message to Obama about his Israel policy by helping Turner pull an upset over Weprin.  What has not been focused on is what effected a Weprin loss will have on exposing the weakness of the corrupt Democratic machine political leaders of both Brooklyn Vito Lopez and Queens Joe Crowley.  Both men control tiny groups of pols and consultants who grow rich by controlling political parties and the election law.  A Turner win will give newspapers, reforms and good government groups a chance to break up the corrupt Lopez and Crowley machines.  The embarrassment will be something to see.  Why keep corrupt political machines that cannot deliver votes?  It is crazy that a Turner  GOP win could have more impact on breaking up the corrupt machine, that newspaper editorials, reformers and good government group have failed at, making the NYC's political parties more democratic.  

     Vito Lopez was also the master corrupt political leader that  killed the 'CHILD VICTIMS ACT' to protect children who were abused and would have extended the statue of limitations for sex abusers against our children

Thursday, August 18, 2011

THE VOICE OF JUSTICE SALUTES MRS BRACHA GOETZ AND RABBI YAKOV HOROWITZ FOR MAKING HISTORY


MRS BRACHA GOETZ
AUTHOR OF
LET"S STAY SAFE
 Bracha Goetz is the author of fifteen Jewish picture books, a mentoring coordinator, and a Harvard grad. She enjoys giving dramatic presentations that leave a lasting impact. With its delightful pictures and child-friendly rhyming text,her new book 
 Let's Stay Safe helps us give our children essential life lessons in safe and unsafe behavior.
  • Personal safety
  • Staying away from strangers
  • Crossing the street safely
  • Bicycle safety
  • PAGE FROM NEW BOOK LET"S STAY SAFE
  • Fire safety                                            
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    RABBI YAKOV HOROWITZ
    PROJECT   YES
  • Safety in the home
                                                                      

 Rabbi Yakov Horowitz,is the director of Project Yes
Deciding to tackle the problem head on by empowering small children to understand that they have rights and teaching them to recognize danger signs when someone, even a person they know who looks to be trustworthy, acts inappropriately and attempts to betray their trust.
This revolutionary book not only teaches children about common safety issues at home, but also discusses personal safety in an open, honest and non-threatening manner.
In an exclusive interview , Rabbi Horowitz explains the evolution of this book and how it can best be used by parents to produce confident, self-aware children who are capable of dealing with any safety threats that they may encounter.
With carefully nuanced text masterfully written by Bracha Goetz, and beautiful illustrations by Tova Leff, this revolutionary book not only teaches children about common safety issues at home, but also discusses personal safety in an open, honest and non-threatening manner.
The book can be ordered at Artscroll online here.